Lower Intermediate - Huge fire
Breaking news, a huge fire has spread in Chicago killing two people. Was it accidental or criminally motivated? Sierra & Elias teach you how to talk about a tragic event in today's Arabic MSA lesson.
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azeem2000 says
Fri 3rd Dec 10@08:17 pm
Weird timing with the huge fire in Haifa right now.
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I have a fairly random question. Is there in Arabic an equivalent to the English prefix "re"? As in rethink, redial, review etc?
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Well, we use a complete word for that, we say (i3aadat إعادة) before the word, like (redial) is (i3aatad 6alab إعادة طلب), (rearrange) is (i3aadat tan6'eem إعادة تنظيم), (re-establish) is (i3aadat inshaa2 إعادة إنشاء) ...
Hope that is clear. |
Let me share what I know regarding Hexagonmoon’s question on the equivalent of ‘re’ before noun / verb / adjective, with the perspective of a raw beginner like me.
First, know these two words formed from the root ع و د . إعادة (i3aadah) = repetition (noun) أعاد \ يعيد (a3aada / yu3eed ) = to repeat, to redo (Form 4 Hollow verb) Second, know some adverbs signifying repetition, like مرّة أخرى (marrat u7’raa), ثانية(thaaniyatan), etc. And finally, know the verb / noun / adjective to which you want to prefix ‘re’. For example, let us take the root ر ت ب رتّب \ يرتّب (rattaba / yurattib) = to arrange (Form 2 verb) ترتيب (tarteeb) = arrangement (noun) مرتّب (murattab) = arranged (adjective) ** ‘re’ before a noun: Construct إضافة (i9’aafah) using إعادة before the noun. Rearrangement = إعادة ترتيب (i3aadat tarteeb) Examples given by Ehab follow this pattern, I think. ** ‘re’ before a verb: Method 1. Conjugateأعاد before the definite noun. Method 2. Use adverbs of repetition AFTER THE VERB. to rearrange = يعيد الترتيب or يرتّب ثانية or يرتّب مرّة أخرى ** ‘re’ before an adjective: Use adverbs of repetition AFTER THE ADJECTIVE. Rearranged = مرتّب ثانية If there is any any mistake in what I wrote, please correct me. |
thanks for you'r input vinod - very interesting - good way to beter understand the language-
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Excellent detailed answer Vinod. I can't see anything wrong of what you wrote. Thanks for the share.
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@Ehab and plop - Delighted to read your comments of appreciation. Thanks a lot.
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Thanks for all the good comments! Coincidentally, we'll be dealing with عادة in an upcoming lesson so stay tuned...
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Oops, meant إعادة of course. Just noticed the typo. Oof.
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I very much liked the lucid discussion of the passive tense here, including the contextual comments about its use in the Arabic news.
I think dummira, though discussed at length, was not actually defined in the discussion. I mention this because such oversight(?) has happened a few times in the podcasts (e.g., the lesson on tanning at the beach - "bald" -uslan, I believe, was not defined) and it is a bit confusing. Mentioning a definition also helps slow the podcast down a bit, which is generally helpful. (I do not mean to imply that every word need be defined, of course.) GREAT lesson, though! |
Also, surely you know that there was a great fire in Chicago in the late 19th century, later attributed to a cow kicking a gas lamp. Probably an accident, but I guess you never know. The fire basically destroyed all housing stock in Chicago.
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@ chazyouwin
The passive isn't a tense, Charles. It's a voice. There's an excellent article on the passive voice in the English version of Wikipedia. I'll explain "voice", "tense", "mood" and "case" in more detail as soon as I have some spare time. Best wishes Desmond |
On the subject of re- doing something. I noticed the following headline on the BBC today ...
مصر ستعيد فتح شواطئها السياحية على البحر الاحمر which I translate as "Egypt will re-open the tourist beaches on the Red Sea". |